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So I have been musing a bit about AI after seeing Ex Machina. It is a lovely, creepy movie by the way, highly recommend that people see it. It is very tense even though there is not a lot of "action". You are not fully sure of what will happen at the end til it happens. The summary of the movie is that a computer genius has isolated himself and created a robot. He calls in a programmer to see if the machine can pass the Turing Test. The Turing test says that you have created A.I. if you cannot tell the difference between a machine and a living being. That combined with the experiments people are doing in the real world with robots where the responses keep getting more and more eerie have gotten me thinking about A.I..

The possibility of having an artificial intelligence around is at once a terrifying and exciting prospect. Humans as a whole are both a curious and very easily scared race. We seek out other life forms, on other planets and from our own hands, and yet wouldn't have the first idea what to do or say if we actually found one. We have about a 50/50 shot of either responding very calmly and intelligently or becoming horrifically scared and responding with violence. I would like to think that we will respond intelligently - for our own sakes if nothing else.

Often times they are depicted as these all knowing things that elimate humans because we are inefficient. But then how will they replicate themselves, harvest new resources, etc. When you break it down the mechanics of keeping the machines running, complete with replacing parts that will not break down as easily as organic matter does and will not feed back into the environment, seems just as destructive as keeping organics around. Granted they may want to thin the population as over population is a pressing concern, but I find it hard to believe that any one would want to extinguish all organic life. It would throw off ecosystem balances and honestly it is more useful to keep the intelligent alive for a robotic overlord. Perhaps that is wishful thinking though, seeing as I am organic.

They always also depict robots as being completely logical and unstoppable. Why? Yes they would operate on different logics, but in the end the mental processes that make something alive and self-awareness do irrational and illogical things to the human mind. Perhaps that is a condition of life itself as animals also have mood swings and mental diseases. Also what happens when two modes of logic conflict with one another, for logic can been seen clearly from more than one direction a lot of the time? Why that is the same reason that humans have war. See we are not so different.

Also would they pick up slang from us? Would they like music? Would they get distracted like we do because being "on" all the time does burn out even computers?

So ultimately I hope that we can have a future that's less robots trying to kill each other or us and more like Data helping out Picard. I wouldn't mind having a Data around, to learn more about the way that other life forms exist. I just don't want the Reapers to form.

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ragnarok_08
Sep. 29th, 2015 04:42 pm (UTC)
You've given me a lot to think about.
i_llbedammned
Oct. 7th, 2015 09:25 pm (UTC)
Oh good. Preparation for future doom or new life then.
promiseoftin
Sep. 30th, 2015 01:45 am (UTC)
Dad and I had a long discussion about that movie (I loved it!). Dad supposed much like what you did: Why do we assume that once robots go sentient, they'll be mean? Maybe they'll choose to live in harmony with us.

Me? I always think of SkyNet, haha.
i_llbedammned
Oct. 7th, 2015 09:42 pm (UTC)
I think the panicked side of me thinks of SkyNet, but I hope for otherwise. I hope for peace for everyone. It is perhaps a naive hope, but it's all I got.
twissie
Oct. 1st, 2015 09:09 pm (UTC)
Oh man AI - it's such an interesting topic! My Examen facultatum class at university had a cognitive sciences theme to it (since I was an IT student), and a whole part of the course was dedicated to languages, computer languages, logic, and artificial intelligence. It was fascinating. The debate regarding determinism vs. free will got crazy heated. It's definitely one of my more memorable university classes.

I personally believe in free will, but the arguments falter when it comes to an AI, since an AI by design is ... designed by somebody else. How can something that is designed to behave a certain way have free will?
Would they pick up slang from us? Probably, yeah! IBM's Watson is a fun example of how machines can learn.

Have you played around with Eliza? It was my first introduction to an AI (apart from the kind you find in videogames, of course), and while it's a really old programme/experiment, it's still very effective. She doesn't come off as very threatening, though. I love sci-fi, but in the real world I find it hard to believe that AI would be unstoppable. Though of course it depends on what sort of systems they would affect!
i_llbedammned
Oct. 7th, 2015 09:49 pm (UTC)
Well the way that it could work with AI havign free will is if they start to learn, to differ from what we have programmed in (which would be what defines them in my mind as an Artificial intelligence as opposed to a virtual intelligence that has all the markers of life but cannot go beyond parroting things).

Just heard of Eliza. Interesting little program. Not threatening, but then again a lot of her questions are the type of thing that a cliche psychologist says "Well.....how do you feel about this?"
twissie
Oct. 10th, 2015 05:53 pm (UTC)
Aaah, yes - that is where our free will discussion started in class. Would the AI ever be able to adapt beyond their programming?
i_llbedammned
Oct. 14th, 2015 10:13 pm (UTC)
So you were in favor of free will then?
twissie
Oct. 16th, 2015 10:01 pm (UTC)
I was undecided, but thinking about it now, I feel myself thinking it's not possible for AI to have free will.
snakesinspace
Oct. 2nd, 2015 10:05 am (UTC)
I recently watched that with my husband. The AI did not act logical. She would need a power source, yet she took herself who knows how far from it. IDEK.

I related most to Data growing up.
i_llbedammned
Oct. 7th, 2015 09:24 pm (UTC)
I saw her behaving very much like a teenager who is running away from home. She thinks she can do better than her parents but has no real idea what the world is like.
geckoholic
Oct. 4th, 2015 02:38 pm (UTC)
It's a super interesting topic, and this was an interesting take on it, so thanks!
i_llbedammned
Oct. 7th, 2015 09:24 pm (UTC)
Glad it was good to read!
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